From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Wed Mar 06 2019 - 23:43:53 CST

Carlos,
  Thanks for the followup for posterity, that's great to hear.

Best regards,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:25:49PM -0500, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> just to close this out and put the solution in the archives, I updated my
> GPU to a Quadro M4000 since it is supported in the newer drivers and my
> previous FX 5800 was not. This has fixed the problem, and stereo in VMD
> with the Nvidia 3DVision shutter glasses works fine with Windows 10.
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:32 AM Carlos Simmerling
> <[1]carlos.simmerling_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I have the Nvidia LCD glasses with external emitter connected to the
> quadro, and 2 Benq XL2720T LCD panels that are 3D vision capable.
> thanks!
> Carlos
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:22 AM John Stone <[2]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Carlos,
> ┬ I completely understand wanting to have some proof that Windows 10
> will
> actually work right with a current GPU before spending $$$$ on one.┬
> I'm hoping
> someone can describe their (hopefully very recent) experience with
> Windows 10
> and the NVIDIA stereoscopic display hardware.┬ If nobody else
> replies, then I will
> have to see if I can come up with a Windows 10 test machine I can put
> a recent
> Quadro into and test it myself, but I'm juggling a lot of balls
> presently so it may
> take me a while to have a chance to do this.┬ Just out of curiosity,
> what kind
> of display hardware are you using?┬ Is this one of the Acer 3-D LCD
> panels, or do you
> have one of the external NVIDIA emitter boxes w/ glasses, and a
> particular
> stereo-capable LCD panel?┬ We've got some of the Acer displays here,
> so that's
> probably what I would have to test with.
>
> Best,
> ┬ John Stone
> ┬ [3]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:20:02AM -0400, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> >┬ ┬ thanks John,
> >┬ ┬ Reading posts from a search it looks like there might be some
> general
> >┬ ┬ issues with OpenGL stereo support in Windows 10, so I hesitate
> to buy a
> >┬ ┬ newer card and have the same problem. I'll try what you suggest
> and roll
> >┬ ┬ back my driver, but I can't go back from WIndows 10
> unfortunately.
> >┬ ┬ Does anyone have Nvidia 3D Vision working under windows 10?
> >┬ ┬ thanks
> >┬ ┬ Carlos
> >┬ ┬ On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM John Stone
> <[1][4]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Hi Carlos,
> >┬ ┬ ┬ ─*┬ This strikes me as a driver bug.─*
> >┬ ┬ ┬ The OpenGL quad-buffered stereo code in VMD hasn't changed
> in quite a
> >┬ ┬ ┬ while, and it
> >┬ ┬ ┬ had been working fine on Linux and Windows in all of the
> previous
> >┬ ┬ ┬ testing I've done.
> >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ The NVIDIA 3D vision test programs are written using Direct
> X rather
> >┬ ┬ ┬ than OpenGL,
> >┬ ┬ ┬ so the fact that they work okay means that at least the
> hardware is
> >┬ ┬ ┬ working,
> >┬ ┬ ┬ but I think that the OpenGL part of the driver stack must
> not be working
> >┬ ┬ ┬ correctly.─*
> >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ The Quadro FX 5800 is now a very old GPU (GT200
> architecture) that is no
> >┬ ┬ ┬ longer
> >┬ ┬ ┬ supported by the current NVIDIA drivers, which I'm guessing
> you're
> >┬ ┬ ┬ already keenly aware
> >┬ ┬ ┬ of.─*┬ This makes our options somewhat limited and
> cumbersome.─*┬ My
> >┬ ┬ ┬ suggestion would be
> >┬ ┬ ┬ to cycle through the last few driver versions that support
> >┬ ┬ ┬ GT200-architecture GPUs
> >┬ ┬ ┬ in general, or the FX 5800 explicitly, and see if you can
> find one that
> >┬ ┬ ┬ works correctly.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ This isn't a fun process, but if you want to keep using that
> card, that
> >┬ ┬ ┬ is likely
> >┬ ┬ ┬ the best option.─*
> >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Perhaps if we're lucky, another Windows user with
> GT200-based GPUs can
> >┬ ┬ ┬ comment about
> >┬ ┬ ┬ what driver versions work for them on Windows 10 w/
> stereoscopic
> >┬ ┬ ┬ displays.─*
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Let's see if anyone else can comment on their recent
> experiences here.
> >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Best,
> >┬ ┬ ┬ ─*┬ John Stone
> >┬ ┬ ┬ ─*┬ [2][5]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:26:35AM -0400, Carlos Simmerling
> wrote:
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ hi all, I have an Nvidia 3D vision setup
> including the LCD
> >┬ ┬ ┬ shutter
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ glasses, 3D vision monitor, emitter and quadro
> card. It should
> >┬ ┬ ┬ all work
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ fine with VMD, and the Nvidia 3D setup wizard
> tests do work fine
> >┬ ┬ ┬ for me.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ This also used to work in VMD when I used windows
> 7 on this PC.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Now,
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ however, when I select quad buffered stereo in
> VMD I get only a
> >┬ ┬ ┬ single
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ image (very slightly shifted from the image with
> stereo off).─**─*
> >┬ ┬ ┬ My quadro
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ fx 5800 drivers are up to date (342.01). VMD
> seems to recognize
> >┬ ┬ ┬ the setup
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ (see below). Any suggestions?─**
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ thanks!
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ ) VMD for WIN32, version 1.9.3 (November 30,
> 2016)
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)─**
> [1][3][6]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) Email questions and bug reports to─**
> [2][4][7]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) Please include this reference in published
> work using VMD:
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)─**─*┬ ─**─*┬ Humphrey, W., Dalke, A. and
> Schulten, K., `VMD -
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Visual
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)─**─*┬ ─**─*┬ Molecular Dynamics', J.
> Molec. Graphics 1996,
> >┬ ┬ ┬ 14.1, 33-38.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)
> >┬ ┬ ┬
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) Multithreading available, 8 CPUs detected.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) Free system memory: 2047MB (100%)
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) OpenGL renderer: Quadro FX 5800/PCIe/SSE2
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)─**─*┬ ─** Features: STENCIL STEREO MDE CVA
> MTX NPOT PP PS
> >┬ ┬ ┬ GLSL(OVFG)
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)─**─*┬ ─** Full GLSL rendering mode is
> available.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info)─**─*┬ ─** Textures: 2-D (8192x8192), 3-D
> (2048x2048x2048),
> >┬ ┬ ┬ Multitexture
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ (4)
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) Spaceball driver not installed.─**─*┬
> Spaceball interface
> >┬ ┬ ┬ disabled.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) No joysticks found.─**─*┬ Joystick
> interface disabled.
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) Dynamically loaded 75 plugins in directory:
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Info) C:/Program Files (x86)/University of
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Illinois/VMD/plugins/WIN32/molfile
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ > References
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ Visible links
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ 1. [5][8]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >┬ ┬ ┬ >─*┬ ─*┬ 2. mailto:[6][9]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >
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> ─*┬ ─* Phone: 217-244-3349
> >┬ ┬ ┬ [8][11]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/─*┬ ─*┬ ─*
> >
> > References
> >
> >┬ ┬ Visible links
> >┬ ┬ 1. mailto:[12]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >┬ ┬ 2. mailto:[13]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >┬ ┬ 3. [14]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >┬ ┬ 4. mailto:[15]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >┬ ┬ 5. [16]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >┬ ┬ 6. mailto:[17]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >┬ ┬ 7. [18]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >┬ ┬ 8. [19]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
>
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> [20]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/┬ ┬ ┬ ┬ ┬ ┬ Phone: 217-244-3349
> [21]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/┬ ┬ ┬
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:carlos.simmerling_at_gmail.com
> 2. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 3. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 4. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 5. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 6. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 7. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 8. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 9. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 10. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/%C4%80
> 11. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/%C4%80
> 12. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 13. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 14. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 15. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 16. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 17. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 18. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 19. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 20. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 21. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/

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