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From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Mon Apr 13 2015 - 16:14:14 CDT

Hi,
  I've setup machines with 5 monitors and 4 or more GPUs before, so the blanket
answer is "yes" in the general case. We have a few GeForce 980 cards driving
4K TV's (I'm using one as I type this) so I know they work fine in isolation.
Driving multiple displays with multiple GPUs should be no problem. We've
got a couple of machines that combine Quadro cards and GeForce cards driving
large 4K displays and one or more smaller displays.

The X configuration for multi-GPU hosts can get a little complex depending
on whether the 3-D mode you need is quad-buffered active stereo, as opposed
to row-interleaved or column-interleaved passive stereo.

Cheers,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Smolin, Nikolai wrote:
> John,
>
> is it possible to use 3 monitors :
>
> one 3D 4K TV connected via GTX 980
> and two monitors via nvidia quadro 2000 D
>
> in one single linux box?
>
> Thanks
> Nikolai
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> Research Associate
> Department of Cell and Molecular Physiology
> Loyola University Chicago
> 2160 South First Avenue
> Maywood, IL 60153
> Phone : 708 - 216 - 5158
> E-mail : [1]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> E-mail : [2]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> www : [3]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:26 AM, John Stone <[4]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Â The specs on this TV look fairly similar to the LG, so I would
> expect that the row/column interleaved stereo modes supported by VMD
> will work with the Sony TV like they do with the LG, but I have not
> tested the Sony model personally. We have been using the LG TVs and
> they seem to work very well. The LG models cost substantially less
> than the particular Sony model you listed, at least according to Google.
> One thing to consider with all of these TVs is what viewing distance
> and angles you will use. Since they are TVs they perform best with
> at least a one meter viewing distance when using the 3-D passive stereo,
> which is logical since they are meant to be used as TVs. They work
> great
> when viewed at larger distances. If you want to use them as desktop
> monitors
> they work well for that too, but the 3-D stereo will drop off if you get
> too close to the display due to the increasingly sharp angle that the
> light
> from the display passes through as it goes through the polarizers on
> the display and on the glasses. If you want to use a TV as a desktop
> monitor,
> my suggestion is to make sure you can sit at least two to three feet
> away
> (0.6 to 1.0 meters) from the display when viewing in 3-D stereo.
>
> Cheers,
> Â John Stone
> Â [5]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 04:22:01PM -0600, Smolin, Nikolai wrote:
> >Â Â John,
> >
> >Â Â I am wondering if you have any thoughts about using VMD with 3D
> 4k Sony
> >Â Â FWD-49X850B TV and with the GTX 980.
> >
> >Â Â I know you tested LG model 49UB8500-UA. Do you think Sony will
> perform
> >Â Â same as LG?
> >
> >Â Â Thanks,
> >
> >Â Â Nikolai
> >Â Â
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Â Â Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> >Â Â Research Associate
> >Â Â Department of Cell and Molecular Physiology
> >Â Â Loyola University Chicago
> >Â Â 2160 South First Avenue
> >Â Â Maywood, IL 60153
> >Â Â Phone : 708 - 216 - 5158
> >Â Â E-mail : [1][6]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â E-mail : [2][7]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â www : [3][8]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:38 PM, John Stone
> <[4][9]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
> >Â Â Â Nikolai,
> >Â Â Â Ã*Â I would expect all of the high-end versions of the Kepler
> and Maxwell
> >Â Â Â NVIDIA GPUs would likely be workable, and I would similarly
> expect that
> >Â Â Â recent high-end AMD/ATI cards would work, although I haven't
> actually
> >Â Â Â tested
> >Â Â Â any yet.Ã*Â I don't know what the maximum display resolutions
> are for
> >Â Â Â Intel's
> >Â Â Â integrated graphics, but I expect that integrated GPUs would
> not have
> >Â Â Â sufficient graphics performance to be usable on high
> resolution displays
> >Â Â Â like
> >Â Â Â these even if they could theoretically support the display
> resolution
> >Â Â Â for
> >Â Â Â easier things like playing movies.Ã*Â I would say that in
> order to drive
> >Â Â Â a
> >Â Â Â 4K display well, one would want to obtain one of the latest
> GPUs in the
> >Â Â Â ~$250 to $500 price range, with the GTX 980 being one such
> example.Ã*
> >Â Â Â You
> >Â Â Â can go for higher-end cards like Quadro cards to get much more
> GPU
> >Â Â Â memory,
> >Â Â Â but that would be for reasons other than just due to the 4K
> display
> >Â Â Â resolution, e.g. for rendering large/complex VMD scenes using
> the
> >Â Â Â interactive GPU ray tracing engine, etc.Ã*Â If you've got the
> budget for
> >Â Â Â a 4K TV, it would not make much sense to skimp on the GPU to
> drive it
> >Â Â Â so I wouldn't go for a low-end GPU in any case.
> >
> >Â Â Â Cheers,
> >Â Â Â Ã*Â John Stone
> >Â Â Â Ã*Â [5][10]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 03:13:43PM -0600, Smolin, Nikolai
> wrote:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Hi,
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â which other graphic cards besides GeForce 980 you
> recommend for
> >Â Â Â this type
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â of TVs (3D 4k)?
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Thanks,
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Nikolai
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*
> >Â Â Â
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Research Associate
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Department of Cell and Molecular Physiology
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Loyola University Chicago
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 2160 South First Avenue
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Maywood, IL 60153
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Phone : [11]708 - 216 - 5158
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â E-mail : [1][6][12]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â E-mail : [2][7][13]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â www :
> [3][8][14]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, John Stone
> >Â Â Â <[4][9][15]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â Hi,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â I wanted to send a quick update.AÃ*Â
> After updating video
> >Â Â Â drivers and
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â disabling the "deep color" display mode and
> upgrading the TV
> >Â Â Â firmware
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â on the LG 4K TV I've been testing, I was able
> to get
> >Â Â Â row-interleaved
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â stereo working with VMD on a GeForce 980, at
> full 4K
> >Â Â Â resolution and
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â without
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â any color bleeding from chrominance
> downsampling.AÃ*Â I've been
> >Â Â Â testing
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â the
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â LG model 49UB8500-UA, but I believe that the
> same results
> >Â Â Â would likely
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â apply to their larger 55", 60", etc models.
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â Here are my observations about getting the TV
> working with
> >Â Â Â VMD:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â A - If you drive the TV at native 4K
> resolution (3840x2160),
> >Â Â Â and you
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â have
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A an up-to-date video driver and a GPU
> that can handle the
> >Â Â Â full
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â resolution
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A without chrominance downsampling, you
> can simply enable
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â "row-interleaved"
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A stereo mode in VMD (nothing has to be
> done with the TV
> >Â Â Â itself) and
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â you'll
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A get 3-D (you may have to enable VMD
> 3-D eye swap,
> >Â Â Â particularly if
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â the VMD
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A OpenGL window gets moved around).
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â A - If you drive the TV at any resolution
> _below_ the native
> >Â Â Â 4K hardware
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A resolution (e.g. 1080p or less), the
> TV's built-in 3-D
> >Â Â Â stereo
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â decoder
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A mode MUST be activated, and then you
> should set VMD's
> >Â Â Â stereo mode
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â to
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â A match whatever the TV's built-in
> stereo 3-D decoder is
> >Â Â Â set to.
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â So far, we have driven the TV at full 4K
> resolution and stereo
> >Â Â Â on Linux,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â but we have not (yet) found a Mac laptop that
> is able to drive
> >Â Â Â the TV
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â over HDMI at full 4K resolution.AÃ*Â All of
> the Macs we have
> >Â Â Â tried have
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â all maxed out at 1080p thus far.AÃ*Â We
> haven't yet tried
> >Â Â Â Windows laptops
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â yet.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â The various stereo modes worked fine with the
> Mac laptops,
> >Â Â Â albeit at
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â only 1080p resolution.
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â One remaining issue I have observed when using
> stereo 3-D with
> >Â Â Â the TV
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â is some apparent flicker during
> constantly-updating VMD
> >Â Â Â rotation draws,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â and an apparent lack of vertical retrace
> synchronization with
> >Â Â Â the GPU.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â So far this effect is relatively minor, but it
> is worth
> >Â Â Â noting.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â I'm looking into whether this is some video
> driver bug or
> >Â Â Â something
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â else.AÃ*Â I'll send further updates when I
> get it sorted out.
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â Cheers,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â John Stone
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â AÃ*Â [5][10][16]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:45:24AM -0600, John
> Stone wrote:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > Hi,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >AÃ*Â A I think you missed my point --
> row-interleaved hasn't
> >Â Â Â worked for
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â me
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > when running at 4K resolution, only
> side-by-side and
> >Â Â Â over-under have
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â worked
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > so far when running at the full display
> resolution.AÃ*Â Row
> >Â Â Â interleaved
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â is one
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > of the modes that could have issues if
> you've got
> >Â Â Â downsampled
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > chrominance (in my case the LG TV just
> disables these modes
> >Â Â Â entirely).
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > For the LG TVs I'm testing currently, the
> display panel
> >Â Â Â appears to be
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > row-interleaved at the hardware level, so
> running
> >Â Â Â row-interleaved is
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â the
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > best choice for VMD, but I have to find a
> way to get the
> >Â Â Â display to
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â run
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > at full 4K resolution with full resolution
> chrominance
> >Â Â Â data.AÃ*Â I'm
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â going to
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > try updating to a newer driver version and
> newer TV firmware
> >Â Â Â and see
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â if
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > either of those has any impact.AÃ*Â Another
> potential gotcha
> >Â Â Â I'm working
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > around is that some TVs support 30-bit color
> (10-bit per
> >Â Â Â color
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â channel)
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > and that eats some of the available HDMI
> bandwidth.AÃ*Â It is
> >Â Â Â possible
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â that
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > row, column, and checkerboard stereo modes
> might be workable
> >Â Â Â on the
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > shallow color depth modes but not in 30-bit
> color.AÃ*Â I'm
> >Â Â Â working on
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â testing
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > that next...
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > Cheers,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >AÃ*Â A John
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 05:34:14PM +0100,
> Norman Geist
> >Â Â Â wrote:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > But isn't more comfortable using the row
> interleaved
> >Â Â Â stereo mode
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â anyway,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > where one hasn't to deal with all of that
> possible issues?
> >Â Â Â It will
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â have full
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > screen stereo, windowed stereo, and the TV
> doesn't even
> >Â Â Â know that 3D
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â content
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > is present. The only disturbing thing is
> the eye switch
> >Â Â Â which comes
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â by
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > moving and placing the windows.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > Or do I miss something?
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > Norman Geist.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > -----UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Von: John Stone
> [mailto:[6][11][17]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu]
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014
> 17:12
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > An: Norman Geist
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Cc: 'Smolin, Nikolai'; VMD Mailing List
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Betreff: Re: vmd-l: VMD with 3D TV
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Hi,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >AÃ*Â A One interesting observation I had
> in testing VMD
> >Â Â Â with some of
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â the new
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > LG TVs is that although the LG 4K TV
> supports 6
> >Â Â Â different stereo
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â modes,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > only some of them are usable when the
> video driver is
> >Â Â Â set for the
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > native
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > 4K display resolution of the TV, at
> least in my testing
> >Â Â Â with a GTX
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â 980
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > and driver version 343.22.AÃ*Â One
> potential catch with
> >Â Â Â this is that
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â video
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > cards using HDMI 1.x outputs may
> downsample the color
> >Â Â Â information
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â by 2x
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > or more, converting to so-called 4:2:2
> or 4:2:0 color
> >Â Â Â formats.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > I think that the downsampled color
> formats are
> >Â Â Â inherently
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â unworkable
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > with
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > row-interleaved, column-interleaved, and
> checkerboard
> >Â Â Â stereo
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â formats,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > which in the case of the LG TVs I've
> been testing leaves
> >Â Â Â only the
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > side-by-side and over-under video
> format.AÃ*Â The
> >Â Â Â drawback of the
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > side-by-side and over-under formats is
> that they only
> >Â Â Â work
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â correctly
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > with a full-screen window, and clearly
> that is somewhat
> >Â Â Â limiting.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > I'm currently trying to sort out a video
> driver version
> >Â Â Â that can
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â run
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > the TV without any downsampling of
> chrominance
> >Â Â Â information, and
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â I'm
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > hoping
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > that might allow the LG TVs I'm testing
> to run at full
> >Â Â Â 4K
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â resolution
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > while also supporting windowed
> stereo.AÃ*Â If you drive
> >Â Â Â the LG TVs
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â at
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > 1080p,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > they do support all of the stereo modes,
> which is one
> >Â Â Â reason I
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â suspect
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > that
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > downsampled chrominance might causing
> the limitation in
> >Â Â Â 4K modes.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Cheers,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >AÃ*Â A John Stone
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >AÃ*Â A [7][12][18]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 08:43:12AM
> +0100, Norman Geist
> >Â Â Â wrote:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â VMD also offers the stereo
> mode row
> >Â Â Â Interleaved, so you can
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â use
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > any
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â passive 3D Display. The
> graphics card or
> >Â Â Â machine doesn't
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â really
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > matter
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â than, except of supporting
> the 4k resolution.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Norman Geist.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Von:
> [8][13][19]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â [mailto:[9][14][20]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu] Im
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Auftrag
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â von Smolin, Nikolai
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Gesendet: Freitag, 12.
> Dezember 2014 17:10
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â An:
> [10][15][21]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Betreff: vmd-l: VMD with 3D
> TV
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Dear All,
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â I am thinking to use VMD
> with 4k 3D TV.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â What is the best way to do
> it.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Linux or Windows? which
> graphic card? Which TV
> >Â Â Â is best for
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â this?
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
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> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
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> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > ---------------------------------------
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Research Associate
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Department of Cell and
> Molecular Physiology
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Loyola University Chicago
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â 2160 South First Avenue
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Maywood, IL 60153
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Phone : [16]708 - 216 -
> 5158
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â E-mail :
> [1][11][17][22]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â E-mail :
> [2][12][18][23]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â www :
> >Â Â Â [3][13][19][24]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > > References
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â Visible links
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â 1.
> mailto:[14][20][25]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â 2.
> mailto:[15][21][26]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > >AÃ*Â AÃ*Â 3.
> >Â Â Â [16][22][27]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > --
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling
> and
> >Â Â Â Bioinformatics
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > Beckman Institute for Advanced Science
> and Technology
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > > University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews
> Ave, Urbana, IL
> >Â Â Â 61801
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> [17][23][28]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*
> >Â Â Â AÃ*Â A Phone:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â [18]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > > >
> [19][24][29]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > --
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and
> Bioinformatics
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and
> Technology
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â > University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave,
> Urbana, IL 61801
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >
> [20][25][30]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â
> A
> >Â Â Â Phone:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â [21]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â >
> [22][26][31]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â --
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and
> Bioinformatics
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and
> Technology
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave,
> Urbana, IL 61801
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â
> [23][27][32]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â AÃ*Â
> A
> >Â Â Â Phone:
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â [24]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â
> [25][28][33]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â > References
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â Visible links
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 1. mailto:[29][34]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 2. mailto:[30][35]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 3.
> [31][36]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 4. mailto:[32][37]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 5. mailto:[33][38]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 6. mailto:[34][39]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 7. mailto:[35][40]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 8. mailto:[36][41]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã*Â 9. mailto:[37][42]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 10. mailto:[38][43]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 11. mailto:[39][44]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 12. mailto:[40][45]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 13.
> [41][46]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 14. mailto:[42][47]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 15. mailto:[43][48]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 16.
> [44][49]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 17. [45][50]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 18. tel:[46]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 19. [47][51]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 20. [48][52]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 21. tel:[49]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 22. [50][53]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 23. [51][54]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 24. tel:[52]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â >Ã*Â Ã* 25. [53][55]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â --
> >Â Â Â NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> >Â Â Â Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> >Â Â Â University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> >Â Â Â [54][56]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â Ã*Â
> Ã* Phone:
> >Â Â Â [55]217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â [56][57]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >
> > References
> >
> >Â Â Visible links
> >Â Â 1. mailto:[58]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 2. mailto:[59]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 3. [60]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 4. mailto:[61]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 5. mailto:[62]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 6. mailto:[63]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 7. mailto:[64]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 8. [65]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 9. mailto:[66]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 10. mailto:[67]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 11. mailto:[68]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 12. mailto:[69]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 13. mailto:[70]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 14. mailto:[71]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 15. mailto:[72]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 16. file:///tmp/tel:708%20-%20216%20-%205158
> >Â Â 17. mailto:[73]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 18. mailto:[74]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 19. [75]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 20. mailto:[76]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 21. mailto:[77]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 22. [78]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 23. [79]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> >Â Â 24. [80]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 25. [81]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> >Â Â 26. [82]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 27. [83]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> >Â Â 28. [84]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 29. mailto:[85]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 30. mailto:[86]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 31. [87]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 32. mailto:[88]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 33. mailto:[89]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 34. mailto:[90]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 35. mailto:[91]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 36. mailto:[92]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 37. mailto:[93]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 38. mailto:[94]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 39. mailto:[95]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 40. mailto:[96]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 41. [97]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 42. mailto:[98]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> >Â Â 43. mailto:[99]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> >Â Â 44. [100]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> >Â Â 45. [101]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â 46. file:///tmp/tel:[102]217-244-3349
> >Â Â 47. [103]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 48. [104]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â 49. file:///tmp/tel:[105]217-244-3349
> >Â Â 50. [106]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 51. [107]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â 52. file:///tmp/tel:[108]217-244-3349
> >Â Â 53. [109]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 54. [110]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â 55. file:///tmp/tel:[111]217-244-3349
> >Â Â 56. [112]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> --
> NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> [113]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/Â Â Â Â Â Â Phone:
> [114]217-244-3349
> [115]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 2. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 3. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 4. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 5. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 6. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 7. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 8. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 9. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 10. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 11. file:///tmp/tel:708%20-%20216%20-%205158
> 12. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 13. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 14. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 15. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 16. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 17. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 18. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 19. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 20. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 21. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 22. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 23. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 24. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 25. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 26. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 27. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 28. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A%C3%82
> 29. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 30. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A%C3%82
> 31. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 32. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A%C3%82
> 33. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 34. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 35. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 36. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 37. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 38. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 39. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 40. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 41. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 42. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 43. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 44. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 45. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 46. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 47. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 48. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 49. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 50. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 51. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 52. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 53. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 54. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 55. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 56. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/%C3%82
> 57. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 58. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 59. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 60. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 61. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 62. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 63. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 64. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 65. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 66. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 67. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 68. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 69. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 70. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 71. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 72. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 73. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 74. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 75. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 76. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 77. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 78. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 79. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> 80. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 81. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> 82. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 83. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> 84. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 85. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 86. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 87. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 88. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 89. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 90. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 91. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 92. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 93. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 94. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 95. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 96. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 97. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 98. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 99. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 100. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 101. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 102. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 103. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 104. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 105. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 106. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 107. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 108. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 109. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 110. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 111. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 112. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 113. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 114. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 115. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/ 

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NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/           Phone: 217-244-3349
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/