From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Mon Feb 09 2015 - 15:32:56 CST

Vlastimil,
  I expect that you'll have the same issue with the Tk fonts with
VMD 1.9.2 since nothing changed in the VMD internals or Tcl/Tk versions
used therein. I'm going to start building a Tcl/Tk 8.6.x based version
of VMD in the next few weeks, so I hope to revisit some of this then.

Cheers,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 09:03:39AM +0100, Vlastimil Zíma wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I finally made time to test VMD 1.9.1 with TCL/TK 8.6 and it didn't help
> either.
>
> I noticed VMD 1.9.2 is out, so I will try that and let you know.
>
> Vlastimil
> 2014-08-13 19:28 GMT+02:00 John Stone <[1]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu>:
>
> Vlastimil,
> Â Just FYI, the Tcl 8.5.0 version listed in the dependencies below
> is pretty archaic. The VMD builds we ship are based on at least
> Tcl 8.5.6 / 8.5.9, and we are now transitioning to Tcl 8.6.x. I would
> suggest
> not using the dependencies provided by debian if they are such old
> versions of Tcl/Tk.
>
> If we were to track down the source of your font problem
> to be a bug in Tcl/Tk itself, there would be no point in submitting
> a bug report on such an old version of Tcl/Tk, we would want to be using
> one
> of the last versions of the 8.5.x series, or one of the current 8.6.x
> releases in order to convince the Tcl/Tk developers to make/apply a fix.
>
> If the problem isn't Tcl/Tk itself, but rather something to do with
> the behavior of the X server of the font system on the affected machine,
> then this may not be important, but I wanted to mention that 8.5.0 is
> quite old and we began using later versions due to other known bugs
> that were in 8.5.0.
>
> Cheers,
> Â John Stone
> Â [2]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 07:21:12PM +0200, Vlastimil ZÃma wrote:
> >Â Â Yet another build on debian wheezy, but on different machine. Not
> to build
> >Â Â a package.
> >
> >Â Â === Build dependencies ===
> >Â Â latex2html 2008-debian1-7
> >Â Â libfltk1.3-dev 1.3.0-8
> >Â Â libglu1-mesa-dev 8.0.5-4+deb7u2
> >Â Â libnetcdf-dev 1:4.1.3-6+b1
> >Â Â libxi-dev 2:1.6.1-1+deb7u1
> >Â Â make 3.81-8.2
> >Â Â python-dev 2.7.3-4+deb7u1
> >Â Â python-numpy 1:1.6.2-1.2
> >Â Â tcl-dev 8.5.0-2.1
> >Â Â texlive-latex-base 2012.20120611-5
> >Â Â tk-dev 8.5.0-2.1
> >
> >Â Â === Build process ===
> >Â Â tar -xzf vmd_1.9.1.orig.tar.gz
> >Â Â cd vmd-1.9.1
> >Â Â mv ../plugins plugins_src
> >Â Â export PLUGINDIR=$PWD/plugins
> >Â Â export TCL_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/tcl
> >Â Â export TK_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/tk
> >Â Â export PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/python2.7
> >Â Â export NUMPY_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/python2.7/numpy
> >Â Â export VMDINSTALLBINDIR=$PWD/root/bin
> >Â Â export VMDINSTALLLIBRARYDIR=$PWD/root/lib
> >Â Â # Compile plugins
> >Â Â make -C plugins_src LINUXAMD64 TCLINC=-I${TCL_INCLUDE_DIR}
> >Â Â TCLLIB=-I/usr/share/tcltk/tcl8.5
> >Â Â make -C plugins_src distrib
> >Â Â sed -i 's|python2.5|python2.7|' configure
> >Â Â ./configure LINUXAMD64 OPENGL FLTK TK IMD XINPUT NETCDF CONTRIB
> TCL PYTHON
> >Â Â PTHREADS NUMPY NOSTATICPLUGINS
> >Â Â make -C src
> >Â Â make -C src install
> >
> >Â Â And it's broken again.
> >
> >Â Â Vlastimil
> >
> >Â Â 2014-08-13 18:34 GMT+02:00 Vlastimil ZAma
> <[1][3]zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz>:
> >
> >Â Â Â Hi Josh,
> >
> >Â Â Â thanks for the reply. I've tried to build VMD as is quite some
> time ago,
> >Â Â Â but as far as I can remember I had the same issue. The paths
> doesn't
> >Â Â Â seem to be an issue, as I've defined all Tcl related
> variables,
> >Â Â Â otherwise the compilation would break. In my experience debian
> builds
> >Â Â Â complain quite effectively. Anyway I checked (grep -i
> 'error\|fail') the
> >Â Â Â output and haven't found any errors in there.
> >
> >Â Â Â I'll try to build VMD without packaging and provide further
> info.
> >
> >Â Â Â Vlastimil
> >
> >Â Â Â 2014-08-13 16:48 GMT+02:00 Josh Vermaas
> <[2][4]vermaas2_at_illinois.edu>:
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Hi Vlastimil,
> >
> >Â Â Â Â I've compiled VMD for Ubuntu and packaged it for myself as
> you've
> >Â Â Â Â done, and that isn't something I've seen before. Others
> have noticed
> >Â Â Â Â that depending on your linux installation, some characters
> are missing
> >Â Â Â Â from the system defaults (Angstrom seems to be the most
> common one).
> >Â Â Â Â Have you tried to build VMD in a non-packaged way first?
> Looking at
> >Â Â Â Â the rules file, the set directories look plausible
> depending on your
> >Â Â Â Â system setup, but I vaguely remember for instance needing
> to specify a
> >Â Â Â Â version number to pick up the appropriate header files and
> shared
> >Â Â Â Â libraries (so /usr/include/tcl8.5 instead of
> /usr/include/tcl, and
> >Â Â Â Â actually specifying a TCL_LIBRARY_DIR since the shared
> object wasn't
> >Â Â Â Â in /usr/lib). The debian package building process in my
> limited
> >Â Â Â Â experience hides errors very effectively, so if something
> went wrong,
> >Â Â Â Â it won't stop dpkg from building and making something that
> looks
> >Â Â Â Â plausible as a package that is totally broken.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â I'm just spitballing here. There is nothing obviously wrong
> (to my
> >Â Â Â Â eyes at least) with your configuration, and I've never seen
> the error
> >Â Â Â Â that you report, so I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. :(
> >Â Â Â Â -Josh Vermaas
> >
> >Â Â Â Â On 8/13/14, 5:12 AM, Vlastimil ZAma wrote:
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Hi everyone,
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â continuing on this issue as there is indication I'm not
> the only one
> >Â Â Â Â Â suffering by this problem, see
> >Â Â Â Â Â
> [3][5]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/21361.html.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Sum up the configuration:
> >Â Â Â Â Â A * Debian wheezy (stable), using system libraries, so
> they're not
> >Â Â Â Â Â likely to be broken.
> >Â Â Â Â Â A * I run VMD from console on my machine.
> >Â Â Â Â Â A * Doesn't look like problem with font installation.
> "font
> >Â Â Â Â Â families" returns the same result for tcl shell and vmd
> tcl shell.
> >Â Â Â Â Â A * I don't have SCIM installed which may cause
> troubles.
> >Â Â Â Â Â A * All my machines run under English locales
> "en_US.UTF-8".
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Since first error is
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â X_QueryColors: BadValue (integer parameter out of range
> for
> >Â Â Â Â Â operation) 0xff000000
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â I begin to suspect it may not be a problem related to
> fonts but
> >Â Â Â Â Â rather to the graphics in more general manner, e.g.
> wrong order of
> >Â Â Â Â Â layers.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â I tried to debug Tcl a bit and find out the errors
> appears after
> >Â Â Â Â Â function `::timeline::startTimeline` is finished. But
> this may be of
> >Â Â Â Â Â course caused by delay between window setup and its
> rendering.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â I've published debian packaging metadata at github
> >Â Â Â Â Â [4][6]https://github.com/ziima/vmd-debian. I'd be glad
> if anyone cares
> >Â Â Â Â Â to investigate or build the package using my metadata.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Alternatively I'm looking for somebody who compiled VMD
> successfully
> >Â Â Â Â Â on Debian or Ubuntu.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Regards,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Vlastimil
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â 2013-12-04 10:11 GMT+01:00 Vlastimil ZAma
> >Â Â Â Â Â <[5][7]zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz>:
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Hi John,
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â I haven't compiled Tk myself, I use system library.
> But all code
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â which is based on Tk works to my knowledge.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â As noted in my first email, I created a simple script
> based on
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â code I considered to cause problems in Timeline
> plugin:
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â $ cat tk_test.tcl
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â package require Tk
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â font create tkFixedTimeline -family Courier -size -12
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â ttk::label .l -text "Attention!" -font
> tkFixedTimeline
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â grid .l -row 0
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â This script works as expected. I also use a program
> Seaview, which
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â uses libfltk1.3 as well, without any problems. For
> these reasons I
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â expect that the system Tcl/Tk libraries work as they
> should.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â I was not able to find any other problematic code in
> Timeline
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â plugin and I'm not able to run the Timeline plugin
> outside of VMD,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â so I don't have any other Tk GUI script to test. If
> you can
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â recommend any tests I'd like to try them out.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Vlastimil
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â 2013/11/27 John Stone <[6][8]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu>
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Vlastimil,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â AÂ If your compilation of Tk is misbehaving, but
> our
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â pre-compiled VMD
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â binaries work okay, I would check what options
> were used when
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â you
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â compiled your Tk, and consider disabling
> antialiased fonts and
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â see if
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â that makes any difference. A Are you able to run
> an Tk scripts
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â with
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â just the Tcl/Tk builds you did on your machine? A
> In other
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â words, is
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â the problem isolated to Tcl/Tk on your machine, or
> do you have a
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Tk GUI script that works in 'wishx' but fails
> within VMD? A It
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â would be
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â useful to narrow down the problem and see if it is
> purely an
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â issue
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â with your Tcl/Tk, or if it is something unique to
> running within
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â VMD.
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Cheers,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â AÂ John Stone
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â AÂ [7][9]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 05:11:34PM +0100,
> Vlastimil ZAma wrote:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A Hi everybody,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A wheezy became stable, but I still
> experience this
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â problem.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A Anyway, I now suggests this may not be a
> problem of
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â fonts, but rather
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A colors. I tried to check the error output,
> see my
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â previous post
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > A
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â A
> [8][10]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/19942.html
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â and I
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A have an impression that fonts might be
> properly rendered
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â but they are over
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A painted by some other invalid entity
> (images or colored
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â blocks).
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A Is there any other Tk-related
> build/runtime dependency
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â that is not mention
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A in documentation?
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A Regards,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A Vlastimil
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ A 2012/10/5 Vlastimil ZAma
> <[9][11]zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz>
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A Hi,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A when I compared my compiled VMD with
> precompiled
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â binary some time ago,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A the fonts were present in the
> precompiled one. That is
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â why I expect
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A problems in compilation. I also did
> not noticed any
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â lack of fonts in
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A system paths, but I do not know which
> fonts to look
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â for.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A > tclsh
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A % package require Tk
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A 8.5.11
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A % puts "$tcl_version"
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A 8.5
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A % puts "$tk_version"
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A 8.5
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A All tcl and tk packages I have are for
> amd64 bit
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â architecture (all
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A libraries are in /usr/lib).
> Specifically
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A
> [10][12]http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tcl8.5 version
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 8.5.11-2
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A
> [11][13]http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tk8.5 version
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 8.5.11-2
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A Regards,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A Vlastimil
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ A On 10/05/2012 04:08 PM, John Stone
> wrote:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A Hi,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A Problems with Tk fonts are
> generally caused
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â not by the
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A compilation of
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A VMD (or FLTK) but are usually the
> result of a lack
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â of fonts installed
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A with the X11 Windowing system. A
> Tk obtains its
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â fonts by querying the
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A host windowing system for fonts
> that match the
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â characteristics of a
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A request.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A If the host windowing system has
> no match, then Tk
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â tries to fallback
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A to
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A some font that is available.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A A From the description below, it
> sounds to me like
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â there might be
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A something
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A amiss the X11 window system fonts
> or one of the X11
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â libraries on the
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A machine
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A you're using, and that this is
> preventing the Tk
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â library embedded in
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A VMD from getting anything other
> than the default
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â font.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A Since you're able to get a simple
> test to work in a
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â standalone
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A interpreter,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A one thing that may be worth
> checking is whether
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â there might be some
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A problem with the 64-bit libs on
> your machine. A Is
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â the "tclsh" that
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A you
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A run in your example below a 32-bit
> or 64-bit
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â library? A What do you
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A get
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A from this command, when you run it
> in your tclsh:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A puts "$tcl_version"
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A puts "$tk_version"
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A Cheers,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A John Stone
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A [12][14]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ A On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:07:03AM
> +0200, Vlastimil
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ZAma wrote:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A Hi,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A after several attempts
> I still can not
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â resolve troubles with
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A tk fonts when
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A I compile VMD.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A I am using 64bit
> Debian with following
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â vmd configuration:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A ./configure LINUXAMD64
> OPENGL FLTK TK
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â IMD XINPUT NETCDF
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A CONTRIB TCL PYTHON
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A PTHREADS NUMPY
> NOSTATICPLUGINS
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A and tk packages:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A libfltk1.3-dev 1.3.0-8
> (I also tried
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â fltk1.1)
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A tcl-dev 8.5.0-2
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A tk-dev 8.5.0-2
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A Still timeline,
> sequence viewer and
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â other plugins which uses
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A customized
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A fonts has invisible
> texts. I tried
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â anything I found on this
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A mailing list,
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A including LC_ALL=C in
> environment and
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â $HOME/.tkconrc file. I
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A also tried a
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A simple script with
> uses custom font
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â based on code of timeline
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A which works:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A > A tclsh
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A package require Tk
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A font create
> tkFixedTimeline -family
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Courier -size -12
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A ttk::label .l -text
> "Attention!" -font
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â tkFixedTimeline
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A grid .l -row 0
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A This shows nice small
> box with monofont
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â "Attention!" in it.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A I will be glad for any
> help which would
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â help to resolve this
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A problem.
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > AÂ AÂ AÂ AÂ A A A A A Vlastimil
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â --
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and
> Bioinformatics
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and
> Technology
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave,
> Urbana, IL 61801
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â [13][15]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/ AÂ AÂ AÂ
> AÂ AÂ Phone:
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â [14][16]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >
> > References
> >
> >Â Â Visible links
> >Â Â 1. mailto:[17]zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> >Â Â 2. mailto:[18]vermaas2_at_illinois.edu
> >Â Â 3.
> [19]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/21361.html
> >Â Â 4. [20]https://github.com/ziima/vmd-debian
> >Â Â 5. mailto:[21]zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> >Â Â 6. mailto:[22]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 7. mailto:[23]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 8.
> [24]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/19942.html
> >Â Â 9. mailto:[25]zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> >Â Â 10. [26]http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tcl8.5
> >Â Â 11. [27]http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tk8.5
> >Â Â 12. mailto:[28]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 13. [29]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/%7Ejohns/
> >Â Â 14. [30]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> --
> NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> [31]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/Â Â Â Â Â Â Phone: 217-244-3349
> [32]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 2. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 3. mailto:zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> 4. mailto:vermaas2_at_illinois.edu
> 5. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/21361.html
> 6. https://github.com/ziima/vmd-debian
> 7. mailto:zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> 8. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 9. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 10. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/19942.html
> 11. mailto:zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> 12. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tcl8.5
> 13. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tk8.5
> 14. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 15. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 16. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 17. mailto:zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> 18. mailto:vermaas2_at_illinois.edu
> 19. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/21361.html
> 20. https://github.com/ziima/vmd-debian
> 21. mailto:zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> 22. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 23. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 24. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/19942.html
> 25. mailto:zima_at_karlov.mff.cuni.cz
> 26. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tcl8.5
> 27. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tk8.5
> 28. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 29. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/%7Ejohns/
> 30. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 31. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 32. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/

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NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/           Phone: 217-244-3349
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/