VMD-L Mailing List

From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Sat Sep 18 2021 - 10:29:30 CDT

Mauro,
  Despite Apple blocking you from running VMD on the M1 via the normal
GUI icon, you should be able to run it by launching it yourself from a
terminal window, e.g., similar to this (fix the paths for your actual installation):
  /some/dir/VMDxyz.app/Contents/vmd/vmd_MACOSARM64

Apple has begun limiting access to MacOS, and is starting to require
cryptographic signing of apps, thereby restricting who can ship MacOS
software going forward. At present, they seem to be putting this limitation
in the graphical startup code, as you can bypass it by running VMD (or other
unsigned apps) from the command line still.

Best,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:44:35PM +0200, Mauro Boero wrote:
> è¶*é**é**è*³æ§*ã**ã**é*£çµ¡ã**ã**ã**ã*¨ã**ã**ã**ã**ã*¾ã**ã**
>
> Thank you very much for your kind help. Unfortunately, in the meantime I
> attempted also the solution you proposed with no big success, at least
> on MacBook air M1.
>
> I stop bothering you all and I phone directly to Apple.
>
> Thanks to all people in the VMD mailing list.
>
> Yours sincerely / å®*ã**ã**ã**é¡*ã**è*´ã**ã*¾ã**ã**
>
> Mauro
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> Mauro Boero
>
> Institut de Physique et Chimie des Materiaux
> de Strasbourg (IPCMS)
> CNRS-University of Strasbourg
> 23 rue du Loess
> 67034 Strasbourg (France)
> E-mail: mauro.boero_at_ipcms.unistra.fr
> Institute of Materials and Systems for Sustainability
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> Le 2021-09-08 13:38, è¶*é**é**è*³ a écrit :
>
> Dear Mauro,
>
> Hi, I am afraid that your issue is not related to VMD but Apple Mac OS. Did you check the setting below?
>
> "[2]https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-security-privacy-general-preferences-mh11784/11.0/mac/11.0"
>
> System Preferences - Security & Privacy -
> At [General] tab
> switch to "App Store and identified developers"
>
> See attached.
> Hope it works.
>
> Masanori Koshino
> AIST, Japan
> ________________________________________
> From: [3]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu <[4]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu> on behalf of Mauro Boero <[5]mauro.boero_at_ipcms.unistra.fr>
> Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 16:08
> To: [6]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> Subject: vmd-l: VMD installation on Mac OSx 11 Bug Sur
>
> Dear VMD community,
>
> I am very sorry to bother you for a problem not strictly VMD related, but so far any attempt at getting help form Apple has been useless.
>
> I am unsuccessfully trying to install VMD on a new Mac notebook exploiting the operating system Mac OSx 11 Bug Sur.
>
> The version of VMD I am trying to install is
>
> MacOS 11.x, ARM64 (64-bit "M1" Macs) (Apple MacOS-X 11 or later)
>
> Yet, as expected, the only message I get is "cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified", being VMD a non AppStore software.
>
> Nonetheless, any attempt at bypassing this error following any of the suggestions of the official Apple web site
>
> [7]https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/open-a-mac-app-from-an-unidentified-developer-mh40616/mac<[8]https://jpn01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fmac-help%2Fopen-a-mac-app-from-an-unidentified-developer-mh40616%2Fmac__%3B!!DZ3fjg!stPgVk7yYP4O7kuWTYlQO-qkC4i2citmeehbXosHV7pyDIKM42wEwqReA5Ag1MJdag%24&data=04%7C01%7Cm-koshino%40aist.go.jp%7C32cacfd737714ec9b2f808d97114c101%7C18a7fec8652f409b8369272d9ce80620%7C0%7C0%7C637665763496992891%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=PT6ysxpXsM6BvORzSNqc%2BAAmSBDWYFwVg2JTn6jCz9A%3D&reserved=0>
>
> such as, for instance,
>
> If you're sure you trust the app developer, you can override your security settings and allow the app to install and open.
>
> Open Finder.
> Locate the app you're trying to open.
> Control+Click the app.
> Select Open.
> Click Open.
> The app should be saved as an exception in your security settings, allowing you to open it in the future.
>
> is completely useless. The only effect is to get a new error message Error 10002, well known also within the Apple community ([9]https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1478416<[10]https://jpn01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fdiscussions.apple.com%2Fthread%2F1478416__%3B!!DZ3fjg!stPgVk7yYP4O7kuWTYlQO-qkC4i2citmeehbXosHV7pyDIKM42wEwqReA5B1tKHfpw%24&data=04%7C01%7Cm-koshino%40aist.go.jp%7C32cacfd737714ec9b2f808d97114c101%7C18a7fec8652f409b8369272d9ce80620%7C0%7C0%7C637665763496992891%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=8KGivgxTzoriUa%2FVyDlcRyxMfOTBQ5UZciOqhUf5Q4w%3D&reserved=0>) and not solvable by any of the proposed workaround, at least under Big Sur.
>
> Any suggestion you can provide would be highly welcome.
>
> Thank you in advance and sorry for the silly question.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Mauro Boero
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> Mauro Boero
>
> Institut de Physique et Chimie des Materiaux
> de Strasbourg (IPCMS)
> CNRS-University of Strasbourg
> 23 rue du Loess
> 67034 Strasbourg (France)
> E-mail: [11]mauro.boero_at_ipcms.unistra.fr
>
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