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From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 27 2018 - 10:22:28 CDT

Carlos,
  I completely understand wanting to have some proof that Windows 10 will
actually work right with a current GPU before spending $$$$ on one. I'm hoping
someone can describe their (hopefully very recent) experience with Windows 10
and the NVIDIA stereoscopic display hardware. If nobody else replies, then I will
have to see if I can come up with a Windows 10 test machine I can put a recent
Quadro into and test it myself, but I'm juggling a lot of balls presently so it may
take me a while to have a chance to do this. Just out of curiosity, what kind
of display hardware are you using? Is this one of the Acer 3-D LCD panels, or do you
have one of the external NVIDIA emitter boxes w/ glasses, and a particular
stereo-capable LCD panel? We've got some of the Acer displays here, so that's
probably what I would have to test with.

Best,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:20:02AM -0400, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> thanks John,
> Reading posts from a search it looks like there might be some general
> issues with OpenGL stereo support in Windows 10, so I hesitate to buy a
> newer card and have the same problem. I'll try what you suggest and roll
> back my driver, but I can't go back from WIndows 10 unfortunately.
> Does anyone have Nvidia 3D Vision working under windows 10?
> thanks
> Carlos
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM John Stone <[1]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Carlos,
> Â This strikes me as a driver bug.Â
> The OpenGL quad-buffered stereo code in VMD hasn't changed in quite a
> while, and it
> had been working fine on Linux and Windows in all of the previous
> testing I've done.
>
> The NVIDIA 3D vision test programs are written using Direct X rather
> than OpenGL,
> so the fact that they work okay means that at least the hardware is
> working,
> but I think that the OpenGL part of the driver stack must not be working
> correctly.Â
>
> The Quadro FX 5800 is now a very old GPU (GT200 architecture) that is no
> longer
> supported by the current NVIDIA drivers, which I'm guessing you're
> already keenly aware
> of. This makes our options somewhat limited and cumbersome. My
> suggestion would be
> to cycle through the last few driver versions that support
> GT200-architecture GPUs
> in general, or the FX 5800 explicitly, and see if you can find one that
> works correctly.
> This isn't a fun process, but if you want to keep using that card, that
> is likely
> the best option.Â
>
> Perhaps if we're lucky, another Windows user with GT200-based GPUs can
> comment about
> what driver versions work for them on Windows 10 w/ stereoscopic
> displays.Â
> Let's see if anyone else can comment on their recent experiences here.
>
> Best,
> Â John Stone
> Â [2]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:26:35AM -0400, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> >Â Â hi all, I have an Nvidia 3D vision setup including the LCD
> shutter
> >Â Â glasses, 3D vision monitor, emitter and quadro card. It should
> all work
> >Â Â fine with VMD, and the Nvidia 3D setup wizard tests do work fine
> for me.
> >Â Â This also used to work in VMD when I used windows 7 on this PC.
> Now,
> >Â Â however, when I select quad buffered stereo in VMD I get only a
> single
> >Â Â image (very slightly shifted from the image with stereo off).Ã*Â
> My quadro
> >Â Â fx 5800 drivers are up to date (342.01). VMD seems to recognize
> the setup
> >Â Â (see below). Any suggestions?Ã*
> >Â Â thanks!
> >Â Â ) VMD for WIN32, version 1.9.3 (November 30, 2016)
> >Â Â Info)Ã* [1][3]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Info) Email questions and bug reports toÃ* [2][4]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Info) Please include this reference in published work using VMD:
> >Â Â Info)Ã*Â Ã*Â Humphrey, W., Dalke, A. and Schulten, K., `VMD -
> Visual
> >Â Â Info)Ã*Â Ã*Â Molecular Dynamics', J. Molec. Graphics 1996,
> 14.1, 33-38.
> >Â Â Info)
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >Â Â Info) Multithreading available, 8 CPUs detected.
> >Â Â Info) Free system memory: 2047MB (100%)
> >Â Â Info) OpenGL renderer: Quadro FX 5800/PCIe/SSE2
> >Â Â Info)Ã*Â Ã* Features: STENCIL STEREO MDE CVA MTX NPOT PP PS
> GLSL(OVFG)
> >Â Â Info)Ã*Â Ã* Full GLSL rendering mode is available.
> >Â Â Info)Ã*Â Ã* Textures: 2-D (8192x8192), 3-D (2048x2048x2048),
> Multitexture
> >Â Â (4)
> >Â Â Info) Spaceball driver not installed.Ã*Â Spaceball interface
> disabled.
> >Â Â Info) No joysticks found.Ã*Â Joystick interface disabled.
> >Â Â Info) Dynamically loaded 75 plugins in directory:
> >Â Â Info) C:/Program Files (x86)/University of
> >Â Â Illinois/VMD/plugins/WIN32/molfile
> >
> > References
> >
> >Â Â Visible links
> >Â Â 1. [5]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 2. mailto:[6]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>
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> References
>
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> 5. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
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