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From: Rogan Carr (rogan_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Wed Mar 18 2009 - 16:12:37 CDT

Hi John, Jeff,

To HTML-ize it, you can change spaces explicitly to " " (without
the quotes), but you still won't be able to render the 1-2-3-4
connection unless you actually ask for a fixed-width font.

Cheers,
Rogan

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 20:41 -0500, John Stone wrote:
> Jeff,
> I looked in the raw HTML on that URL you posted (via "view source" in
> firefox), and it appears that all of the spaces are still there in
> the HTML itself, but firefox is collapsing them when it renders the page.
> I agree that the behavior is rather odd. I'll have to look and see
> if I can do something to alter the way the web archive is generated.
> Maybe there are some options I can tweak to improve this situation.
>
> Cheers,
> John Stone
> vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:31:09PM -0400, JT wrote:
> > John,
> > When I type something like the following (which appears in this post
> > - http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/mailing_list/vmd-l/13308.html):
> >
> > 1 4
> > \ /
> > 2 ---------- 3
> >
> > There should be a large number of spaces between the 1 and 4 on the
> > first line and between the \ and / on the second line. The above
> > diagram represents 4 atoms connected as 1-2-3-4, except they connect
> > in a U-shaped pattern, with the 1 (top left), 2 (bottom middle-left),
> > 3 (bottom middle-right) and 4 (top right). I typed my message using
> > the spacebar to generate the spaces, but when I go to the VMD-L page
> > (linked above), it displays no spaces. I checked it using 3 different
> > browsers. Am I doing something incorrectly by posting spaces like
> > this? I'm not quite following you when you speak of the 'HTML
> > version' versus 'actual count of spaces'. I was hoping that other
> > people's web browsers would allow them to see my intended number of
> > spaces.
> > Perplexed,
> > Jeff Tibbitt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:49 PM, John Stone wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Jeff,
> > > Are you referring to the way the messages display in the HTML
> > >version, or in terms of the actual count of spaces? The HTML-ized
> > >version will likely display in a proportional font on most browsers,
> > >so this may be (part of?) the problem. I don't think the actual text
> > >of the messages is being reformatted in any significant way.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > > John Stone
> > > vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >
> > >On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:58:01PM -0400, JT wrote:
> > >>Hi. I've noticed in the VMD-L archives that messages have blank
> > >>spaces truncated. Is there a way to place tags in the message to
> > >>keep
> > >>that from happening?
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Jeff T.
> > >
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