RE: NAMD Error

From: Vermaas, Joshua (
Date: Wed Jul 18 2018 - 07:45:36 CDT

You need to build uglier systems. :p 1000-2000 steps is pretty normal for uglier crystal structures. But basically the typical source of these errors is described in:


On 2018-07-17 15:38:01-06:00 wrote:

Oh, I missed the part where this is a minimization - that's not a good idea. NAMD minimization does not wrap along PBCs, so large minimizations will almost assuredly fail. I would recommend 200 steps at the most (or at least I've never built a system so ugly that this doesn't work).
My previous advice would probably only help for dynamics.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Shriya Bansal <<>> wrote:
Thank you so much for your response. I have increased the margin and pairlistdist, but these changes to the configuration file have unfortunately resulted in the same errors.
I have attached two images of the TIP4P-2005 water box from different angles; is there a reason that certain molecules are stretched after minimization?

Shriya Bansal

On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:17 PM, Brian Radak <<>> wrote:

I frequently encounter similar problems with systems that size - most of NAMD's performance heuristics are simply not designed for something small.
You can try increasing the margin (maybe 1 or 2?) or pairlistdist (16? 18?). You will probably also have less trouble without temperature control.
In general, I've never seen any stability benefit from heating a system slowly versus all at once. There might be good reasons to heat a biopolymer from a crystal structure, but for water this is almost certainly a waste of time.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Shriya Bansal <<>> wrote:
I have been attempting to minimize and equilibrate a 38A TIP4P-2005 water box model built through CHARMM using the July 2017 TIP4P-2005 topology from>. The minimization for 2000 steps has resulted in a trajectory file that exhibits no motion of the molecules. When this water box is that equilibrated, the error FATAL ERROR: Low global exclusion count! (5180 vs 5184) System unstable or pairlistdist or cutoff too small is produced. I have also commented out the heat up process and set the temperature to a constant value of 300K in attempt to counter this error. Please let me know potential sources of error within the minimization and equilibration steps.
Shriya Bansal

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