From: Cesar Luis Avila (cavila_at_fbqf.unt.edu.ar)
Date: Tue May 29 2007 - 15:51:55 CDT
As I previously pointed out KINETIC, and as a consequence TEMPERATURE, 
along with ANGLE and DIHED experiment this shift. I also monitored 
protein backbone rmsd but nothing strange happens on that period. A 
visual inspection on the trajectory does not reveal anything strange 
either. I have restarted a new simulation from 10ns saving the frames 
and energy every ps. But for the first 10 ps the energy reported is 
different even though I have used the same seed.
hl332_at_drexel.edu escribió:
> It all sounds right. Have you seen anything weird in your system between these time steps when energy shows a sudden increase? What happens to temperature in this range? yes, i understand one week is pretty long time to redo the run.
>
> harish
> -------------------------------------------------
> Harish Vashisth (Ph.D Candidate)
> CAT-361,Chemical & Biological Engg.
> Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA
> office: 215-895-5823
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cesar Luis Avila <cavila_at_fbqf.unt.edu.ar>
> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:53 am
> Subject: Re: namd-l: Energy shift during simulation
>
>   
>> The restart files, time step and seed are exactly the same as those 
>> from 
>> previous runs. Indeed the shift appears in the middle of the run, 
>> not at 
>> restart. "1ns" takes a week on my small cluster :(.  Since it is 
>> the 
>> first time that i see something like this, I do not know if this 
>> shift 
>> might be regarded as normal, or if it should be recalculated.
>> Attached I send you a snapshot of the TOTAL energy plot vs 
>> timestep. 
>> Please ask for any other graph or data needed to work this out.
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Cesar
>>
>>
>> hl332_at_drexel.edu escribió:
>>     
>>>  Check again and make sure, you did take the right restart files, 
>>>       
>> right time step from end of previous run and right seed. If still 
>> not convinced, try restarting run for this "1ns" period again which 
>> wont take too long. Thats what I would do in case unable to find 
>> reason of why this shift?
>>     
>>> Harish
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> Harish Vashisth (Ph.D Candidate)
>>> CAT-361,Chemical & Biological Engg.
>>> Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA
>>> office: 215-895-5823
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Cesar Luis Avila <cavila_at_fbqf.unt.edu.ar>
>>> Date: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:26 pm
>>> Subject: Re: namd-l: Energy shift during simulation
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I have the TOTAL energy fluctuating around a given value for 
>>>>         
>> nearly 
>>     
>>>> 10 
>>>> ns. At 10.5 ns I suddenly observe a shift in the energy as well 
>>>>         
>> as 
>>     
>>>> in 
>>>> the temperature and then it returns to previous values at 11 ns.
>>>> I am aware that the energy won't be fixed, but this sudden shift 
>>>> seems 
>>>> suspicious.
>>>>
>>>> hl332_at_drexel.edu escribió:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>     You have been using an NPT ensemble run where  number of 
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> particles, pressure, temperature should stay constant and Energy 
>>>>         
>> is 
>>     
>>>> variable. I dont see what the problem is really? If you want to 
>>>> make energy constant, do an NVE run instead.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I hope it helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harish
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Harish Vashisth (Ph.D Candidate)
>>>>> CAT-361,Chemical & Biological Engg.
>>>>> Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA
>>>>> office: 215-895-5823
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cesar Luis Avila <cavila_at_fbqf.unt.edu.ar>
>>>>> Date: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:21 pm
>>>>> Subject: namd-l: Energy shift during simulation
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> I am conducting a simulation of a protein membrane system. I 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> have 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> decided to split the simulation on 1 ns step, saving energies 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> and 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> coordinates every 10 ps. I am using NPT ensemble (Langevin) 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> using 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> ConstantRatio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After 10 ns I noticed a shift on the TOTAL energy (contributed 
>>>>>> mainly by 
>>>>>> ANGLE + DIHEDRAL + KINETIC ) and TEMP around step 10420000. 
>>>>>>             
>> The 
>>     
>>>>>> ENERGY 
>>>>>> returns to previous values only when I restarted the 
>>>>>>             
>> simulation 
>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> on 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> step 
>>>>>> 11000000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any clue on what might be happening? And what should I do? 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> Discard 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> this 
>>>>>> data and resume from step 100000?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ETITLE:      TS           BOND          ANGLE          DIHED   
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>>  
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