From: Charles Danko (dankoc_at_gmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 02 2004 - 11:20:21 CST
Hi, 
Thanks to Brian for the help.  I tried changing the interactions term
to scaled1-4 with the default scaling factor or 1.0 but the
minimization still died after 199 steps.  The last couple steps are
pasted below.  The energy is substantially different; I am not sure
that I understand the negative sign.
If there are any more suggestions I would be grateful.
Thanks again,
Charles
BRACKET: 2.50603e-07 0.090796 -114345 -267.772 826360
NEW SEARCH DIRECTION
INITIAL STEP: 6.4e-05
GRADIENT TOLERANCE: 14979.9
ENERGY:     195     14682.3820     22632.4249      7136.2497       282.3447
  -96578.5816      9615.8599         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
  -42229.3205         0.0000    -42229.3205    -42229.3205         0.0000
ENERGY:     196     14352.5204     22506.1721      7126.8372       277.9901
  -96822.7235      9098.0523         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
  -43461.1514         0.0000    -43461.1514    -43461.1514         0.0000
ENERGY:     197     14345.7336     22383.6335      7109.8393       271.1399
  -97309.3368      8429.8700         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
  -44769.1205         0.0000    -44769.1205    -44769.1205         0.0000
ENERGY:     198     16752.9576     22839.6644      7095.3013       264.8575
  -98275.7787      9208.5645         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
  -42114.4333         0.0000    -42114.4333    -42114.4333         0.0000
BRACKET: 0.000123859 2654.69 -4.84743e+07 -1.49018e+07 9.67884e+07
ENERGY:     199     14522.5983     22380.1473      7106.8166       269.4865
  -97462.9771      8297.1243         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
  -44886.8042         0.0000    -44886.8042    -44886.8042         0.0000
LDB:  LOAD: AVG 121.372 MAX 150.69  MSGS: TOTAL 171 MAXC 36 MAXP 4  None
LDB:  LOAD: AVG 121.372 MAX 145.646  MSGS: TOTAL 310 MAXC 88 MAXP 4  Alg7
LDB:  LOAD: AVG 121.372 MAX 123.798  MSGS: TOTAL 310 MAXC 88 MAXP 4  Alg7
Rtasks fail:
Rtask(s) 1 : exited with signal <11>
Rtask(s) 4 2 3 7 5 6 8 10 9 : exited with signal <15>
Rtask(s) 1  : coredump
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:56:32 -0800 (PST), Brian Bennion
<brian_at_youkai.llnl.gov> wrote:
> HI Charles,
> 
> Is there a particular reason you use a 1-2 exclusion instead of a 1-4
> exclusion?
> 
> your vdw energies are not at all good and I think it is because your
> including too many interactions with the 1-2 based exclusion.
> Just for kicks, try using the 1-4 term and see how things go.
> 
> Regards
> Brian
> 
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Charles Danko wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am having a problem minimizing my system.   The end of the
> > minimization output file is as follows:
> >
> > ENERGY:     196     72896.2480     36970.3755      7529.1929       527.0135
> >    302178.7322    230719.2954         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
> >    650820.8576         0.0000    650820.8576    650820.8576         0.0000
> >
> > ENERGY:     197     74621.1928     37566.9383      7549.9188       527.7283
> >    301273.8956    231103.4061         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
> >    652643.0800         0.0000    652643.0800    652643.0800         0.0000
> >
> > BRACKET: 0.000110482 1822.22 -4.75282e+07 -1.29993e+07 6.80802e+07
> > ENERGY:     198     73119.1726     37051.1602      7532.4822       526.9988
> >    302022.8627    230476.5677         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
> >    650729.2442         0.0000    650729.2442    650729.2442         0.0000
> >
> > BRACKET: 7.36549e-05 1913.84 -1.29993e+07 -1.34062e+06 6.80802e+07
> > ENERGY:     199     73237.2018     37093.2432      7534.1100       527.0121
> >    301947.9529    230399.3378         0.0000         0.0000         0.0000
> >    650738.8579         0.0000    650738.8579    650738.8579         0.0000
> >
> > LDB:  LOAD: AVG 163.034 MAX 257.747  MSGS: TOTAL 240 MAXC 44 MAXP 4  None
> > LDB:  LOAD: AVG 163.034 MAX 195.64  MSGS: TOTAL 526 MAXC 145 MAXP 6  Alg7
> > LDB:  LOAD: AVG 163.034 MAX 166.29  MSGS: TOTAL 530 MAXC 145 MAXP 6  Alg7
> > Rtasks fail:
> > Rtask(s) 1 : exited with signal <11>
> > Rtask(s) 2 5 4 3 9 6 8 7 10 : exited with signal <15>
> > Rtask(s) 1  : coredump
> > >
> >
> > I am using the script which is pasted below.  So far, I have tried:
> > decreasing the parameters minBabyStep and minTinyStep by 1, 2, and 3
> > orders of magnitude; running minimization with the velocity quenching
> > algorithm, and starting from a restart file.  In all cases the system
> > craps out after exactly 199 steps, including when the system is
> > started from the restart file.
> >
> > My input files are rather large (~5MB pdb, ~10MB psf) but I can post
> > if someone requests.
> >
> > I think that I am most likely missing something obvious.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
> > Charles
> >
> > # initial config
> > coordinates ../final.pdb
> > structure   ../final.psf
> > temperature     0
> >
> > # output params
> > outputtiming    1000
> > outputname      ./output/minimize
> > binaryoutput    no
> >
> > # for restart
> > restartname ./minimize/system_minimize_restart
> > restartfreq 100
> > restartsave yes
> > binaryrestart yes;  # preserves more accuracy.
> >
> > # integrator params
> > timestep        1.0
> >
> > # force field params
> > paratypecharmm on
> > parameters par_all27_prot_lipid.prm
> > exclude         1-2
> > switching       on
> > switchdist      8.0
> > cutoff          12.0
> > pairlistdist    13.5
> > stepspercycle   20
> >
> > #velocityQuenching on
> >
> >
> > #minimizethe yffstem
> > minimization on;        #this turns on fast minimization
> > minTinyStep 1.0e-7;
> > #minbabystep 1.0e-3;    #If it doesnt work, this option is on for the next run.
> > minimize 2000
> >
> 
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