Re: Using nodelist file causes namd to hang

From: Douglas Houston (DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Jun 19 2014 - 12:25:25 CDT

Hi Norman,

Switching off the firewalls using '/etc/init.d/iptables stop' on each
node now allows everything to run, and for the log files, dcd file
etc. to update.

However I'm seeing only 1% utilisation of each CPU. I thought perhaps
running on only those nodes that share a subnet might help in case the
link between the two subnets was causing a bottleneck but no luck, CPU
usage is still no more than 5%.

Is this behaviour expected? What sort of ethernet bandwidth should I
need to fully utilise 48 cores across 4 nodes?

Another issue is that the hard drive where the files are written is
not inside any of the nodes but in a server on a different subnet. But
I wouldn't have thought so much data is written that quickly to cause
a problem?

Or are there settings in my .conf file that could improve parallelisation?

cheers,
Doug

Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on Thu, 19 Jun
2014 12:09:43 +0200:

>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Douglas Houston [mailto:DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk]
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2014 11:56
>> An: Norman Geist
>> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes namd to
>> hang
>>
>> Thanks Norman,
>>
>> Not sure if this is relevant, but If I specify any one node in the
>> nodelist file it runs OK, it only hangs if I have more than one node
>> listed. Whether the node is on the same or different subnet seems to
>> make no difference.
>
> Which pointed me to the local dns / or firewalls.
>
>>
>> How do I check that all the nodes can reach each other over the
>> network? I can ssh from one to the other OK (without password), what
>> else should I check? We do have firewalls in place obviously but how
>> can I tell if this is the problem?
>
> Easiest option is to turn off firewalls on two nodes and try with them, best
> with only one process per node.
>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on Thu, 19 Jun
>> 2014 09:19:03 +0200:
>>
>> > The behavior you see let's me at least think, that indeed all the
>> nodes can
>> > connect to the "1st" node from which the job has been started as "all
>> node
>> > programs connected", but seem not be able to reach each other, so
>> stuck.
>> > This means that there's something weird with your network config and
>> you
>> > might want to check that all the nodes can reach each other over the
>> network
>> > you try to use, this may include possible firewall. This also still
>> includes
>> > that the hostnames of all nodes resolve to outgoing ip addresses as
>> > explained before.
>> >
>> > Norman Geist.
>> >
>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> Von: owner-namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu [mailto:owner-namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu] Im
>> >> Auftrag von Douglas Houston
>> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2014 14:58
>> >> An: Norman Geist
>> >> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes namd to
>> >> hang
>> >>
>> >> itioc1 and 2 are in a different physical location to 3, 4 5 and 6,
>> and
>> >> presumably this means they're on a different subnet. Does this mean
>> >> they can't be used?
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on Wed, 18 Jun
>> >> 2014 14:52:29 +0200:
>> >>
>> >> > Look the line with the <----
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 0: "itioc3", IP:129.215.237.179
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 1: "itioc4", IP:129.215.237.180
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 2: "itioc5", IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 3: "itioc6", IP:129.215.237.187
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 4: "itioc1", IP:129.215.137.21
> <-----
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 5: "itioc2", IP:129.215.137.123
> <-----
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 6: "itioc3", IP:129.215.237.179
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 7: "itioc4", IP:129.215.237.180
>> >> >
>> >> > This nodes don't seem to use the same network as the other nodes!
>> >> > Something is definitely weird with your network config.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also:
>> >> >
>> >> >> 129.215.137.123 itioc2.bch.ed.ac.uk itioc2
>> >> >> 129.215.137.21 n3
>> >> >
>> >> > Is again different from what could be seen above. (137/237)
>> >> > This doesn't look continues and might be an error.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> Von: Douglas Houston [mailto:DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk]
>> >> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2014 14:24
>> >> >> An: Norman Geist
>> >> >> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> >> >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes namd to
>> hang
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Here is an example of what /etc/hosts contains:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
>> >> >> # that require network functionality will fail.
>> >> >> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
>> >> >> 129.215.137.123 itioc2.bch.ed.ac.uk itioc2
>> >> >> ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
>> >> >> 129.215.137.21 n3
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not sure I can see anything wrong with it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on Mon, 16
>> Jun
>> >> >> 2014 09:19:28 +0200:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > This may be related to an unsuitable local dns setup. Please
>> check
>> >> >> that in
>> >> >> > all the nodes "/etc/hosts" the hostname of the node does not
>> point
>> >> to
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> > loopback address similar to 127.0.0.1 but too the outgoing IP.
>> >> I've
>> >> >> written
>> >> >> > another thread about that somewhen.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> Von: Douglas Houston [mailto:DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk]
>> >> >> >> Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Juni 2014 19:17
>> >> >> >> An: Norman Geist
>> >> >> >> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes namd to
>> hang
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Norman,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have made some progress, I now get:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> [douglas_at_itioc1 200ns]$
>> >> >> >> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/charmrun +p8
>> >> >> >> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2
>> ++verbose
>> >> >> >> mdrun.conf
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> charmrun started...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> using ./nodelist as nodesfile
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 0: "itioc3", IP:129.215.237.179
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 1: "itioc4", IP:129.215.237.180
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 2: "itioc5", IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 3: "itioc6", IP:129.215.237.187
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 4: "itioc1", IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 5: "itioc2", IP:129.215.137.123
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 6: "itioc3", IP:129.215.237.179
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 7: "itioc4", IP:129.215.237.180
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Charmrun = 129.215.137.21, port = 54043
>> >> >> >> start_nodes_rsh
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "0 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 0.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 0.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc3 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc3:0) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "1 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 1.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 1.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc4 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc4:1) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "2 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 2.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 2.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc5 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc5:2) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "3 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 3.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 3.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc6 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc6:3) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "4 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 4.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 4.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc1 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc1:4) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "5 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 5.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 5.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc2 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc2:5) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "6 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 6.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 6.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc3 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc3:6) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "7 129.215.137.21 54043 24199 0" to client
>> 7.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2" at
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/unfold_MD_Cks1pep
>> >> >> >> _par36_Skp2complex/200ns" for
>> >> >> >> 7.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc4 -l douglas /bin/sh -f
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc4:7) started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> node programs all started
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc3.6)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc3.0)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc3.6)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc3.0)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc3.6)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc3.0)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc4.1)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc4.1)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc4.1)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc4.7)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc4.7)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc4.7)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.4)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.4)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.4)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc6.3)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc6.3)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc6.3)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.2)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.2)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.2)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc2.5)> remote responding...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc2.5)> starting node-program...
>> >> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc2.5)> rsh phase successful.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 0-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 1-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 2-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 3-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 4-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 5-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 0 connected (IP=129.215.237.179
>> data_port=45304)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 6 connected (IP=129.215.237.179
>> data_port=54685)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 4 connected (IP=129.215.137.21
>> data_port=49908)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 5 connected (IP=129.215.137.123
>> data_port=40205)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 1 connected (IP=129.215.237.180
>> data_port=47847)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 7 connected (IP=129.215.237.180
>> data_port=45521)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 6-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 2 connected (IP=129.215.237.186
>> data_port=52855)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 7-th client to connect.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> client 3 connected (IP=129.215.237.187
>> data_port=50052)
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> All clients connected.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> IP tables sent.
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> node programs all connected
>> >> >> >> Charmrun> started all node programs in 1.805 seconds.
>> >> >> >> Converse/Charm++ Commit ID: v6.4.0-beta1-0-g5776d21
>> >> >> >> Charm++> scheduler running in netpoll mode.
>> >> >> >> CharmLB> Load balancer assumes all CPUs are same.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Output to terminal halts at this point. All node processors
>> are
>> >> >> >> running but nothing is written to disk. I see others have had
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> problem before:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/mailing_list/namd-l.2011-
>> >> >> >> 2012/3776.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I tried your suggestion of running charmrun with the debug
>> >> option.
>> >> >> >> This causes 8 xterm windows to open, each with the following:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> GNU gdb (GDB) Fedora (7.2-16.fc14)
>> >> >> >> Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> >> >> >> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
>> >> >> >> <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>> >> >> >> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute
>> >> it.
>> >> >> >> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type
>> "show
>> >> >> >> copying"
>> >> >> >> and "show warranty" for details.
>> >> >> >> This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu".
>> >> >> >> For bug reporting instructions, please see:
>> >> >> >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...
>> >> >> >> Reading symbols from
>> >> >> >> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-x86/namd2...(no
>> >> >> debugging
>> >> >> >> symbols found)...done.
>> >> >> >> (gdb)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What should I try next?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> >> Doug
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on Mon,
>> 2
>> >> Jun
>> >> >> >> 2014 13:31:08 +0200:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The error with "HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED" means, that
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> entries in
>> >> >> >> > "known_hosts" are no more true. Therefore it would be easier
>> to
>> >> >> >> delete ALL
>> >> >> >> > the "known_hosts" entries from all nodes and recreate them
>> by
>> >> >> sshing
>> >> >> >> to each
>> >> >> >> > other and to localhost and 127.0.0.1. It might be easier if
>> the
>> >> >> nodes
>> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> > share the same identification which can be done by mirroring
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> "~/.ssh"
>> >> >> >> > folder to all nodes after the clean-up
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> Von: Douglas Houston [mailto:DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk]
>> >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juni 2014 13:26
>> >> >> >> >> An: Norman Geist
>> >> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes
>> >> namd
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi Norman,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> My .ssh/known_hosts contains one line for each of the itioc
>> >> >> nodes,
>> >> >> >> >> plus one line for 127.0.0.1 and one line for localhost.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Could you clarify which entries exactly I should delete in
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> file,
>> >> >> >> >> and also what you mean by "start over"?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> >> >> Doug
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on
>> Mon,
>> >> 2
>> >> >> Jun
>> >> >> >> >> 2014 13:06:30 +0200:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Easiest way is to delete all the nodes "known_hosts"
>> entries
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> start over.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> >> Von: owner-namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu [mailto:owner-namd-
>> >> >> l_at_ks.uiuc.edu]
>> >> >> >> Im
>> >> >> >> >> >> Auftrag von Douglas Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juni 2014 11:51
>> >> >> >> >> >> An: Namd Mailing List
>> >> >> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes
>> >> namd
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry for the long delay but I ran out of time to
>> continue
>> >> >> >> >> >> troubleshooting this, until now.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> To recap, I have 6 nodes. When I'm logged in to e.g.
>> itioc6
>> >> I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> >> ssh
>> >> >> >> >> >> to localhost, 127.0.0.1, and 129.215.237.187 (itioc6's
>> IP
>> >> >> >> address).
>> >> >> >> >> >> But if I login to e.g. itioc1, I can't ssh to localhost
>> >> (see
>> >> >> >> error
>> >> >> >> >> >> message below). If I change the key in
>> >> >> ~douglas/.ssh/known_hosts
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> make this work on itioc1 it stops working on itioc6.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It looks like I can only have one working "localhost" or
>> >> >> >> "127.0.0.1"
>> >> >> >> >> >> key in the known_hosts file, but as I understand it I
>> need
>> >> all
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> >> itioc nodes to each have one. How can I achieve this?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de> on
>> >> Wed,
>> >> >> 9
>> >> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2014 12:53:50 +0200:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > This may be a hint. Your nodes must not only be able
>> to
>> >> >> logon
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> >> nodes
>> >> >> >> >> >> > without password, but should also be able to logon to
>> >> >> >> themselves
>> >> >> >> >> via
>> >> >> >> >> >> own IP
>> >> >> >> >> >> > address, localhost and 127.0.0.1
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > You may want to delete the wrong entries in
>> >> >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> nodes,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and recreate by ssh to the targets mentioned above.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Von: Douglas Houston
>> [mailto:DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. April 2014 12:42
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> An: Norman Geist
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes
>> namd
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The same command without the ++local causes the
>> nodelist
>> >> >> file
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> used, I have already posed the output from this.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I delete the nodelist file, the same command
>> without
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> ++local
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (which causes the file /usr/people/douglas/.nodelist
>> to
>> >> be
>> >> >> >> used)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> outputs:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> charmrun started...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> using /usr/people/douglas/.nodelist as
>> >> nodesfile
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 0: "localhost", IP:127.0.0.1
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> Charmrun = 129.215.237.187, port = 35909
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> start_nodes_rsh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "0 129.215.237.187 35909 27843 0"
>> to
>> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> 0.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> x86/namd2"
>> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 0.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh localhost -l douglas /bin/sh -
>> f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (localhost:0) started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> node programs all started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
>> >> @
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-
>> in-
>> >> >> the-
>> >> >> >> >> middle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> attack)!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is also possible that the RSA host key has just
>> been
>> >> >> >> changed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote
>> host
>> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 99:cb:e0:0a:77:8b:61:fd:19:01:57:93:ec:93:99:63.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please contact your system administrator.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Add correct host key in
>> >> >> /usr/people/douglas/.ssh/known_hosts
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> get
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> rid of this message.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Offending key in
>> /usr/people/douglas/.ssh/known_hosts:47
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> RSA host key for localhost has changed and you have
>> >> >> requested
>> >> >> >> >> strict
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> checking.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Host key verification failed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Charmrun> Error 255 returned from rsh (localhost:0)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The file /usr/people/douglas/.nodelist contains:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> group main
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> host localhost
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-greifswald.de>
>> on
>> >> >> Wed,
>> >> >> >> 9
>> >> >> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014 12:28:51 +0200:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Please try the same command without ++local and see
>> if
>> >> it
>> >> >> >> still
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> works.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Von: owner-namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu [mailto:owner-namd-
>> >> >> >> >> l_at_ks.uiuc.edu]
>> >> >> >> >> >> Im
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Auftrag von Douglas Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. April 2014 11:49
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> An: ramya narasimhan
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: namd-l: Using nodelist file causes
>> namd
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The result is the same whichever order the nodes
>> are
>> >> >> >> present
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> list.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What exactly is Charmrun waiting for at the
>> "Waiting
>> >> for
>> >> >> 0-
>> >> >> >> th
>> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> to connect." stage? Presumably the 0th client is
>> the
>> >> >> first
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nodelist, and that a process is supposed to start
>> on
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> node,
>> >> >> >> >> >> then
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "connect" to Charmrun on the host machine?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Charmrun is just spawning the namd processes and
>> now
>> >> is
>> >> >> >> waiting
>> >> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> them to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > start to talk.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Using the command top I see no evidence of
>> anything
>> >> new
>> >> >> >> >> starting
>> >> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the node, despite all the "starting node-program"
>> and
>> >> >> "rsh
>> >> >> >> >> phase
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> successful" messages that are output.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Using "ps -u douglas" on the node shows a whole
>> bunch
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> tcsh
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> sh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> shells and sleep processes starting then dying but
>> >> >> nothing
>> >> >> >> >> else.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What does the line "Sending "0 129.215.237.187
>> 57453
>> >> >> 26737
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> client 0" mean? How is this "sending" achieved? I
>> see
>> >> >> "port
>> >> >> >> >> >> 57453"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mentioned in the output ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Seems like being part of the parallel startup,
>> where
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> spawned
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> processes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > get the information about each other.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quoting ramya narasimhan <ramya_jln_at_yahoo.co.in>
>> on
>> >> Wed,
>> >> >> 9
>> >> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2014
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 11:51:52 +0800 (SGT):
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Just change the hostname [IP of the system]
>> order
>> >> in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > nodefile, so that the 0-th client will be itioc5
>> >> >> instead
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of itioc1.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > To find whether the problem is with nodes.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dr. Ramya.L.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, 8 April 2014 7:23 PM, Douglas
>> Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes, with ping all the nodes resolve to full
>> >> hostnames
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> IP
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > addresses. I tried putting IP addresses into
>> >> nodelist
>> >> >> >> >> instead
>> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > hostnames but it still times out at "Waiting for
>> 0-
>> >> th
>> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> connect"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-
>> >> greifswald.de>
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> Tue, 8
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2014 14:30:15 +0200:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On all the nodes? Otherwise try a nodelist with
>> IP
>> >> >> >> adresses
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> instead
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> hostnames. If that works, you got a problem
>> with
>> >> >> local
>> >> >> >> DNS.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Von: Douglas Houston
>> >> >> [mailto:DouglasR.Houston_at_ed.ac.uk]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2014 14:14
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> An: Norman Geist
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist
>> file
>> >> >> causes
>> >> >> >> >> namd
>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks Norman. I had found that thread after
>> my
>> >> >> >> searches
>> >> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> did
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> not seem to apply to my problem.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "You can check this while doing a ping to the
>> >> >> hostname,
>> >> >> >> >> while
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> logged in at a compute node "ping hostname".
>> If
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> >> returns
>> >> >> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 127.x.x.x address, your local DNS
>> configuration
>> >> is
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >> suitable
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> charmrun"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> My ping returns the full name and IP address
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> node,
>> >> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 127.x.x.x.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-
>> >> >> greifswald.de>
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> Tue,
>> >> >> >> >> >> 8
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 2014 13:22:41 +0200:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Now I remember that I already posted a
>> solution
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> >> >> some
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> weeks
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> ago, you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > could have found it by using google.de.
>> Maybe
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> helps
>> >> >> >> >> >> you.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/mailing_list/namd-
>> >> >> >> >> >> l.2012-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 2013/2645.html
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Von: owner-namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>> [mailto:owner-
>> >> namd-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> l_at_ks.uiuc.edu]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Im
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Auftrag von Douglas Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2014 12:53
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> An: Norman Geist
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Cc: Namd Mailing List
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Betreff: Re: AW: namd-l: Using nodelist
>> file
>> >> >> causes
>> >> >> >> >> namd
>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Thanks for the tip Norman, but if I change
>> my
>> >> >> >> command
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> following
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> it still hangs at the same point:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/charmrun
>> >> >> >> >> >> +p12
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> ++remote-shell ssh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> x86/namd2
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ++verbose
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> mdrun.conf
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Quoting Norman Geist <norman.geist_at_uni-
>> >> >> >> greifswald.de>
>> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >> Tue,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 8
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> 2014 12:06:03 +0200:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Try the charmrun option "++remote-shell
>> >> ssh".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Norman Geist.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Von: owner-namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>> >> [mailto:owner-
>> >> >> namd-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> l_at_ks.uiuc.edu]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Im
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Auftrag von Douglas Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2014 11:30
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> An: namd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Betreff: namd-l: Using nodelist file
>> causes
>> >> >> namd
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> hang
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I have two nodes connected via ethernet:
>> >> >> itioc5
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> itioc1
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I have the following in my nodelist
>> file:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> group main
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> host itioc1
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> host itioc5
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I am using the following command:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> >> x86/charmrun
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> +p12
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> /usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ++verbose
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> mdrun.conf
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I get the following output:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> charmrun started...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> using ./nodelist as nodesfile
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 0: "itioc1",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 1: "itioc5",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 2: "itioc1",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 3: "itioc5",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 4: "itioc1",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 5: "itioc5",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 6: "itioc1",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 7: "itioc5",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 8: "itioc1",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 9: "itioc5",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 10: "itioc1",
>> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.137.21
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> adding client 11: "itioc5",
>> >> >> >> >> >> IP:129.215.237.186
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Charmrun = 129.215.237.187,
>> port
>> >> =
>> >> >> >> 58330
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> start_nodes_rsh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "0 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 0.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 0.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc1 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc1:0)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "1 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 1.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc5 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc5:1)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "2 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 2.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc1 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc1:2)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "3 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 3.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc5 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc5:3)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "4 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 4.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 4.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc1 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc1:4)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "5 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 5.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 5.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc5 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc5:5)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "6 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
>> >> >> 19205
>> >> >> >> 0"
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 6.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> find the node program
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> "/usr/people/douglas/programs/NAMD_2.9_Linux-
>> >> >> >> >> x86/namd2"
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> "/usr/people/douglas/projects/UPS/targets/SCF/2AST/MD/parallelise_itioc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> " for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 6.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Starting ssh itioc1 -l douglas
>> >> >> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> -f
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> remote shell (itioc1:6)
>> started
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Sending "7 129.215.237.187
>> 58330
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.3)> remote
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.5)> remote
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.5)>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.3)> rsh
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.7)> rsh
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.1)>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc5.11)> rsh
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>> >> >> >> >> responding...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.0)> remote
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.4)> remote
>> >> >> >> >> responding...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.10)>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.10)> rsh
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.6)> remote
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.2)>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.2)> rsh
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.6)>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
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>> >> >> >> >> >> program...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun remote shell(itioc1.8)> rsh
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> Waiting for 0-th client to
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Charmrun> error 0 attaching to node:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Timeout waiting for node-program to
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I'm not sure but I think the "Starting
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>> >> >> itioc5
>> >> >> >> -l
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> douglas
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> /bin/sh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -f" lines has something to do with it.
>> If I
>> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> command
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "ssh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> itioc5 -l douglas /bin/sh -f" it also
>> >> hangs.
>> >> >> If I
>> >> >> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> >> >> "ssh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> itioc5
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -l
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> douglas" then it logs me in just fine
>> >> (without
>> >> >> >> >> asking
>> >> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> password).
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Similarly the command "ssh itioc5 -l
>> >> douglas -
>> >> >> f
>> >> >> >> pwd"
>> >> >> >> >> >> works
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> fine,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the expected directory name returned.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> What exactly is happening at the
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>> >> >> 0-
>> >> >> >> th
>> >> >> >> >> >> client
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> connect."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> stage?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Many thanks in advance for your
>> thoughts.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Doug
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular
>> >> Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a
>> charitable
>> >> >> body,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> registered
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Scotland, with registration number
>> >> SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und
>> Malware,
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>> >> >> >> der
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular
>> Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable
>> >> body,
>> >> >> >> >> >> registered
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Scotland, with registration number
>> SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > ---
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware,
>> >> denn
>> >> >> der
>> >> >> >> >> >> avast!
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable
>> body,
>> >> >> >> >> registered
>> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware,
>> denn
>> >> der
>> >> >> >> >> avast!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable
>> body,
>> >> >> >> registered
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body,
>> >> >> >> registered
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn
>> der
>> >> >> avast!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body,
>> >> >> registered
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der
>> >> avast!
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body,
>> >> registered
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der
>> avast!
>> >> >> >> >> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> >> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body,
>> registered
>> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast!
>> >> >> >> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered
>> in
>> >> >> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast!
>> >> >> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> >> Lecturer
>> >> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> >> King's Buildings
>> >> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> >> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast!
>> >> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _____________________________________________________
>> >> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> >> Lecturer
>> >> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> >> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> >> King's Buildings
>> >> University of Edinburgh
>> >> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> >> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast!
>> > Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv.
>> > http://www.avast.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Dr. Douglas R. Houston
>> Lecturer
>> Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
>> Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
>> King's Buildings
>> University of Edinburgh
>> Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
>> Tel. 0131 650 7358
>> http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston
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Dr. Douglas R. Houston
Lecturer
Institute of Structural and Molecular Biology
Room 3.23, Michael Swann Building
King's Buildings
University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh, EH9 3JR, UK
Tel. 0131 650 7358
http://tinyurl.com/douglasrhouston

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