Re: Recommended solvation box size

From: Cesar Luis Avila (cavila_at_fbqf.unt.edu.ar)
Date: Mon Sep 03 2007 - 07:44:26 CDT

Sorry for the late response. I was out of town last week. I would like
to add a little tip. If you are going to solvate your protein using
vmd's solvate plugin, you should be aware that the box is going to
shrink during equilibration.
When building your system you might want to use a solvation box larger
than the longest atom-atom distance plus the cutoff.
Regards
Cesar

Vincent Kraeutler escribió:
> this is only partially correct. if you use a nonbonded method like PME,
> your molecule is in fact guaranteed to see (the electrostatic aspect of)
> the nearest image of itself and in fact all periodic copies.
>
> your box size should therefore aim to satisfy the following properties:
>
> a) as guillaume mentioned, in many (but not all) cases, you want to
> avoid LJ-interactions between the molecule and its nearest images. your
> minimum box diameter should therefore be larger than the longest
> atom-atom distance (at any time during the simulation) in your molecule
> plus the cutoff. it's not always easy to predict how your molecule will
> behave, so just make a good guess.
>
> b) regarding the electrostatics: the interactions between nearest images
> should be small. if you employ criterion a), this is typically the case if:
> -- your molecule has no net charge and the dipole moment of your
> molecule is not huge.
> -- your molecule has a net charge and you have a significant number of
> ions, such that the overall charge of your system is zero.
>
> if you want to read up on this, i suggest:
> http://www.igc.ethz.ch/phil/research/research.html
>
> cheers,
> v.
>
> Guillaume LETELLIER wrote:
>
>> hi Philip
>>
>> The answer depends on your molecule flexibility and simulation
>> parameters.
>>
>> You must prevent your moldecule from seeing images of itself generated
>> by periodic conditions.
>> Therefore, your molecule should never approach the box edge beyond a
>> margin of half your cutoff distance.
>>
>>
>> Philip Peartree a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am running a simulation of a protein, and I wish to solvate in TIP3
>>> waters.
>>> What would be the recommended distance from the protein to the edge
>>> of the
>>> periodic box that I need to solvate? Is 12 angstroms enough or would you
>>> recommend more?
>>>
>>> Philip Peartree
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

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